Mungkin tidak seperti kelihatannya,
Tapi perubahan memang kelihatan seperti menjanjikan,
tapi orang dahulu juga memperibahasakan
berharap elang yang terbang tinggi, punai ditangan dilepaskan.
perubahan memang menjanjikan sekaligusa juga menakutkan,
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:51:27 AM): u r invisible to everyone
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:51:37 AM): No sir
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:51:46 AM): assalamu’alaikum wr. wb. pak Yatno
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:51:52 AM): apa kabar?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:51:55 AM): waalaikumussalaam
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:52:00 AM): long time no see yah
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:52:08 AM): lama tak basuo
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:52:10 AM): where are you now sir ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:52:34 AM): Irving sir
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:52:52 AM): where is irving sir ?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:52:55 AM): UK ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:53:11 AM): Ir ving is in Texas, circa 20 miles from Dallas
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:53:14 AM): US
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:53:18 AM): I will be very glad if you need abap and invite me sir …
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:53:23 AM): I see
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:53:41 AM): so it midnight there then …
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:53:45 AM): i am just temporarily transferred to Axon US
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:54:12 AM): 1 hour to midnite
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:54:36 AM): if u r interested to work in US, u can check www.dice.com
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:54:50 AM): find the company that willing to sponsor ur H1B visa
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:54:59 AM): in my case, the visa is L1
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:55:00 AM): what is H1B visa sir ?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:55:17 AM): and also what is L1 ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:55:33 AM): H1B is the working visa for foreigner
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:55:36 AM): is Dice is an head hunter or something like NGO ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:56:12 AM): L1 is working visa for temporary assignment between a group of company
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:56:24 AM): O I see
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:56:44 AM): dice is mostly SAP and IT jobs
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:57:09 AM): very useful info … thank sir ..
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:57:19 AM): just take a look
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:57:42 AM): do they mention about providing visa in their ads ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:58:11 AM): usually yes, they mention also if they cannot sponsor H1B
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 10:58:40 AM): So … in what company you are consulting to sir ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:59:18 AM): still the same coy, Axon Solutions Sdn Bhd Malaysia
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 10:59:54 AM): for now is Axon Solutions Inc. US
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:00:48 AM): No I mean … your current job …
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:00:57 AM): like trakindo while you are still in ISS
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:01:35 AM): i am serving Texas Utility (TXU) now
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:02:10 AM): it is a Utility Industry that providing electricity for Texans
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:02:27 AM): Ooo I see
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:02:48 AM): its like goverment owned company here
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:03:33 AM): are you bringing your family during your work overseas sir ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:03:35 AM): nope, it is public company
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:04:03 AM): there are several electricity providers in Texas
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:04:25 AM): sure, my son and wife are here with me
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:05:25 AM): that’s must be very lovely condition then …
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:06:29 AM): and how is your son’s study ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:06:33 AM): it is just ordinary situation, as I mostly around with my family
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:07:02 AM): he is going to R.L Turner High School in Carrollton, TX
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:07:29 AM): now is summer break until end of August
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:08:10 AM): however my son is going to summer school in Newman Smith High School
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:09:32 AM): If I might know, based on your experience … how much will I get (in my condition), if I work there … so if there is an offer .. I am not asking too high or too low
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:10:32 AM): sorry, i don’t have any idea since my paycheck is still in Malaysia
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:10:52 AM): maybe you can try to google it
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:11:05 AM): u should be able to find it I believe
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:12:23 AM): you have very broad working overseas exxperience sir …
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:13:08 AM): not really, it is only US and MY
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:13:42 AM): I thought you ever work in UK …
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:14:18 AM): it was only 2 months experience
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:14:26 AM): not counted
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:14:33 AM): i found this:
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:14:37 AM): SAP HCM Senior Consultant Barron Carlington Group (Atlanta, GA) …International SAP Solutions organization who is looking for a SAP HCM Senior Consultant -This is a Full Time…will respond back ASAP Thank you, Lexi Soehle www.barronsys.com POSITION DETAILS Salary Range: $100,000 to $145,000 plus 10000 Best Industry: Banking ,…
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:15:17 AM): what is HCM ? I never heard that ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:15:29 AM): HCM = HR
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:15:55 AM): I see
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:16:01 AM): I ever heard, technical consultant can get around 70K to 80 K in US
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:16:19 AM): but not too sure about that
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:16:22 AM): are you planning to work in end user company like trakindo sir ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:17:19 AM): i don’t really make a plan for that, if there is one that willing to hire me, i will consider it accordingly
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:17:44 AM): is it possible for me to join Trakindo?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:17:46 AM): Ucok Nasution: I ever heard, technical consultant can get around 70K to 80 K in US <— this is quite much .. since many of ex MST people are working in MY and earn only around 20M IDR per month
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:18:08 AM): Ucok Nasution: is it possible for me to join Trakindo? <— I have no info about it sir …
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:18:20 AM): you may ask Agusto or JLW … if you want
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:18:47 AM): do you know many MST people are leaving ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:18:57 AM): 20M IDR net or gross? hmm how much is in MYR?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:19:03 AM): really?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:19:06 AM): who are they?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:19:16 AM): Zaki, Eben, Devi, and Aryo
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:19:25 AM): wow
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:19:29 AM): where is Zaki now?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:19:32 AM): 20M is around 2K USD
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:19:44 AM): he (zaki) goes to Blue bird
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:20:06 AM): to Blue Bird or to Hermis?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:20:09 AM): I am not sure you know the others
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:20:17 AM): BB .. what is hermis ?
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:20:21 AM): i know Eben and Devi
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:20:39 AM): Hermis is the SAP consulting company under BB
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:20:44 AM): I see
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:20:52 AM): Eben is MM guy, rite
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:21:01 AM): Devi is FI guy, rite?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:21:04 AM): they create their own SAP consulting company then, like trakindo did
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:21:15 AM): yes .. both are correct
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:21:46 AM): 2K USD is around 7K MYR, rite?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:22:14 AM): I am not quite familiar with MYR currency sir ..
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:22:37 AM): MYR is Malaysian Ringgit
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:23:00 AM): I know … but don’t know how much is that
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:23:30 AM): 7K MYR is the salary for Consultant and entry level of Senior Consultant
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:23:49 AM): I see …
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:24:07 AM): where is Eben and Devi?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:24:16 AM): so the money we earn is very different between MY and US …
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:25:12 AM): definitely since the living cost in US is much higher
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:26:00 AM): both of them go to metrodata consulting company
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:26:08 AM): 70K in US is very good already, the income per capita of US is just around 32K
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:26:31 AM): is that aplied to foreigner also ?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:26:37 AM): or only to local ?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:26:54 AM): sometimes I feel … they pay local more than foreigner ..
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:27:05 AM): not like here
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:27:24 AM): in US, they have to pay more for foreigner, it’s by the law!
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:28:23 AM): they need to proof that they cannot find local resources, then they will be allowed to hire foreigner
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:29:43 AM): when I used to work here back in 1998-1999, they pay me more than 100K, while local only get around 70K or less
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:31:17 AM): you ever said to me … consultant wages are decreasing now … since there are many consultant available in the market now
Ucok Nasution (6/17/2008 11:32:23 AM): yes it is, but if you have the right experience you can negotiate accordingly
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:41:52 AM): at what time you are going to sleep sir ?
yatno yatno (6/17/2008 11:45:30 AM): sir, when you talk about 70K, 80K or 100K, is it including project bonus or basic pay ?